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Discussion in 'Newbie Section' started by Redtop-155, Feb 7, 2013.

  1. Redtop-155

    Redtop-155

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    I just dropped by to introduce myself and say hi to all. I've owned a few Almera 2.0 GTI's that I've raced on grass (that's the stuff lawns are made of not what is smoked) Anyway I've been suitably impressed by the performance of them that I decided to stick an SR20DE motor in the back of a class 9 autograss special I'm building and have run up against the problem of the NATS2. So I got to wondering if there's anyone who lives down south, that can offer any advice on how to get shot of the NATS, and get it running. Or even better, anyone that lives down south that fancies wiring it up for me in exchange for, petrol money, sausage butties, tea, and the kudos. I'd even go so far as letting you race it in the mechanics race., so come on guys and gals, anyone up for it? Cheers, Tom. IMG00239-20121204-1456.jpg
     

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    edk Addicted to Torque Staff Member

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    Welcome Tom, awesome project :) I can't help I'm afraid but you can bet someone will along shortly who can. I know people have gotten around NATS ECUs but you can also buy import ECUs that have no NATS in the first place!
     
  3. Liam

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    Where abouts are you? If you're not too far i can help.
     
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    Liam's ya bitch my friend !
     
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    need more photos. that thing will go beyond stink!!!
     
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    Fuck I want one of those.
     
  7. Redtop-155

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    BS, if Liam can help me out, I'm prepared to have his babies ;)
     
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  8. Redtop-155

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    If I can get this thing up and running, I hope to start building a few, so maybe you can my friend.
     
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  9. Redtop-155

    Redtop-155

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    Hi Liam, I live in Poole Dorset. If you fancy a ride down, or if you don't live too far away, I can bring it to you... Once I have it on all four wheels that is!
     
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    A copy of the plans will do ;)

    There is a little Autograss track up the road from me (Hunmanby) I've always wanted a shot at it!

    Liam will sort you out, he's a go to guy when it comes to shit like this, the kids cleverer than he knows!

    Good luck with it.


    I'll be interested to see how you sort the gear linkage, will it be a case of just having the change pattern back to front?
     
  11. Redtop-155

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    Thanks for the welcome and the advice on import ECU's, but I race on a budget, and you can bet that she holds those purse strings very tight, so buying new stuff is nigh impossible. The major bonus I have, and in fact the only reason I am able to race at all, is that my son works at Charles Trent, which is one of the largest breakers in the country, so I get all the parts at a discount. So I'm down to trying to get around the NATS2, and also fig out which wires I need to run into and out of the ECU, so that I can cut the wiring down to a bare minimum. I appreciate the reply though, thanks.
     
  12. Redtop-155

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    What gives you the idea that there's a plan? I'm just gluing bits on that look about right o_O As for the gear linkage, I have no idea at the moment that's a job to look at once I get the engine married to the chassis, it maybe a case of stick it in second, and ride the clutch to get it mobile. Second is the right gear for the track I race at, and once its going it'll be okay. We also race over 10 to 15 laps so that will give time to catch up if I get left at the start, I'll just be screwed if I need reverse. :)
     
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    Corbs Moderator Staff Member

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    IIRC for the NATS to work you'll need the ECU and the matching chip from inside the key. The signal is picked up by the transponder ring around the ignition barrel
     
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    Thanks for the reply, but I already know this, I'm trying to ditch as much of the wiring loom as I can, because the more I have connected, the more there is to go wrong. For that reason I'm after a mod to the original ecu to get rid of the NATS altogether, but thanks anyway. Cheers, Tom.
     
  15. Liam

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    You can suppisedly remove nats, i tried but it failed. In the end i made up a small loom (13 or so wires) to run the nats system. You could wire it all in and leave the chip on the transponder ring and put all the wiring/parts inside a nice water tight plastic tub or sort.

    Iirc chunky is running a de-nats ecu but he had to pay a premium because it was 2 weeks before racewars.
     
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    It can be removed, my ecu and two others I know of have had it removed with no issues at all

    I suppose I should really get my ecu out and get some pictures and compare to see whats been removed/linked out so everyone can have the benefit if they like?!

    ....phone....
     
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    Yes you should. Show me show. I could probably offer a de-nats service if i know whats needed.
     
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    I'll get it done soon :)

    ....phone....
     
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    I'll get some pics of inside the stock GTi ecu to compare later on today :)

    Sent from my GT-I9100 using Tapatalk 2
     
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    Ive got a few stock ones here. I know which board is the nats, just need to know whats linked/shorted ect.
     
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