How light can you make a GTI? (Track)

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For track use. Needs to be road legal but not daily drive.


If they weigh in at 1100kg stock. Im guessing you could push to 900kg with the right weight removal. Not going silly, but sensible.

I.e. :-

No interior, dash carpets etc.
Inner metalwork removed (non supportive, behind interior panels etc.

etc etc really.

So lets say 900kg, at 140bhp. SO thats around 150bhp per ton. Which isnt too bad. (im thinking part time cheap track car here)

Any other suggestions for almera gti on track use?



Only other thing ticking in my mind is using a primera....


Can pick up a bog 2.0 SE or whatever for few hundred - SR20 included too. Ive heard their suspension setup is a little more advanced than the almera's... So could be a better track option...

More weight but better round the bends?

Dont really want to go with the normal boring golf gti/pug/clio etc But the thought had entered my mind....




Your thoughts/findings? Would really like to hear from someone with track experience.


Thanks.
 
A few do track days on here in thier meras...so im sure they will have advice for you

Remember its going to be 10x as loud inside if you have an exhaust system

Maybe some light weight alloys, lightened flywheel and light weight bucket seat will help

Other things like carbon fiber bonnet etc, but that gets expensive
 
Ok, cool.

Also after tips on making them handle.

I love the chassis on these and im sure with the right select bits they can be make superb on track.
 
check out Rowdys hes probably got the most extensive weight saving on the forum
 
look at rowdys weight saving thread thats a good start then if your serious.. boot floor can be cut out.. fuel tank can be romved and a smaller one put in place in the rear.. gutt the rear bumper its a parachte so cut most of it out can be replaced with a diffuser of ebay..

complete ABS removal ll sensors and wiring loom.. whilst your there you can cut the standard loom down to virtually noting..
 
I used Rowdys as a basis for weight saving on my red track GTI, i havnt gone quite as far as him yet but reckon Iv shaved at least 80kg so far:D. Car is much noisier inside with interior removed as boltholes lead to outside, but after I plugged these it reduced but while wearing a helmet you dont notice or care:lol:
I ran it last Monday in Mondello afternoon session and had a laugh ,I seen another blue GTI in the morning...anyone here??......anyway the car proved well capable even with only basic mods and kept up with bigger competition . Car ran sweet all day , temp gauge was hardly above halfway altho I destroyed my brake pads towards the end.... I usually run a modded STI trackcar with my bro but I honestly had just as much fun in the GTI :D
 
I think rowdy was the only person to do it scientifically, weighing every item he removed, most people just chuck it all out!
 
Or you could just get a mate with a stock GTi and yourself with the stripped to perfection car and weigh them difference being how big a pat on the back you deserve... dont need to anally weigh each item :lol:
 
I've used ians thread for mine, but the things that wern't on his list i weighed myself as i have a big set of fishing scales at home. I've stripped just over 130kg out of mine. Heres the list of what i've done so far, theres lots still to do:
Lightweight battery saved 11.0kg
Lightweight Flywheel 4.0kg
Underdrive alloy crank pulley 1.5kg
Rear seat belts 4.2kg
Rear seats 4.3kg
Racing harnesses as opposed to front OE belts 2.0kg
Parcel shelf 1.5kg
Spare wheel / Jack / Tools 19.0kg
Speakers fr/rear 4.5kg
Stereo 2.0kg
Reduced weight of decat 2.0kg
Reduced weight of header as opposed to cast OE one 2.0kg
Lightweight wheel nuts 0.5kg
Rear wiper / mechanism 1.0kg
Front fogs 1.5kg
Boot carpet 1.7kg
unwanted stereo cables/tweeters 1.0kg
aerial cable and aerial mast 1.0kg
OE airbox and resonator boxes 2.5kg
metal support panels behind door trim 1.0kg
exhaust back box heat shield. 1.0kg
rear `door` cards 3.6kg
rear hatch plastic trim 1.0kg
Rear windscreen plastic surrounds, rear speaker shelves, boot latch plastic trim 1.4kg
boot carpet ( around sides ) 1.0kg
A/C rad / Pipes 3.4kg
Boot support panel ( thin wooden thing ) 1.5kg
Front door card speaker panels 0.8kg
Using 195/50 tyres instead of 195/55 saves 0.8kg per wheel x 4 3.2kg
Air Con compressor and iron bracket/bolts 10.6kg
Electric windows to manual ones saving 1.2 kg
Front door cards 6.0kg
Central locking components. Solenoids, control unit, door wiring loom. 1.2kg
No Sunroof 13.3kg
most of the firewall blanket, bits of carpet 3.1kg
a/c parts 2.0kg
venting 0.5 kg
battery tray 1.3kg
16" Rota circuit 8 + 205/45 tyres = 8.1kg
Racing steering wheel ( no airbag ) = 2.5Kg
Removing PAS and installing electric water pump = 8.5kg
carbon canister, solenoid valve and a few random brackets 1.5kg
Rear interior roof handles 0.5kg
A/C fan 1.5kg
Rear stiffener panels 4.5kg
Some interior panels, ECU plastic cover and foot rest 1.5kg
Sound deadening, air vents from under front seats, some plastic covers and bits of carpet 12.0kg
Alloy rear strut brace, removing front strut brace 1.6Kg
OE bonnet latch and cable 0.6Kg
cutting down throttle body 0.3kg
Removing front and rear left toe eyes 2.7kg
Rear sway bar +4.0kg
Front and rear carpet 5.6kg

total 130.7kg
 
No members ride thread Andy? Get one started lets see your machine :)
 
Yeah i really should take some pics lol, i've just got my JDM rear plate surround in the post, i'll fit that and then take some pics, watch this space ;)
 
A fully loaded GTi will weigh more than 1100kg ( book is 1120 iirc ).......that figure didn`t ring true with me, the amount i chucked out and the final weigh in.

Mine is down to 974kg with the fuel light on. i`d say with CF bonnet and polycarb windows 930-940kg.
 
good man :)

mine has had around 170kg took out of it, not accurate though as there will have been different amounts of fluids in it when i had it on the weighbridge. ive stripped more out of it since then, keep meaning to get it on the bridge again

mine was 1220kg ian, when it was in full road trim with all tools, spare wheel etc and a sum and amp in it :lol:
 
Yeah i agree, the only true way to tell is weigh everything you've stripped out and add it to the final weigh in to get an idea.
 
ooooooooh god knows mate, probably quite a lot :lol: i was surpised when it weighed in that much. it was 1070kg last time i had it on but ive took a lot more out of it since then, must be close to 1000kg now
 
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