Projector lights?

Not quite a GTR

Not quite a GTR

is there such a thing as projector lights for an n15 if so where can i get some an how much as i want to fit a hid kit but leagaly so it would pass an mot without having to remove the hid kit when put through test!!
 
It should pass anyway mate. I believe that the law says that it applies to cars that came with them as standard. Also you don't have to have projectors they are just better than normal ones.

Ivan
 
i agree with darren here.

the sentra halo type lights that can be made to fit the n15, look alot better than the stock lights, however the light output is significantly lower.
 
Technically speaking, and if you take the law at its word, retrofitting a HID conversion kit into your existing headlights is ILLEGAL. The primary reason for this is that it invalidates the E-Mark of the headlights which was obtained and applies to the headlight unit and the original lightbulb for which it was designed. In our case it means halogen bulbs. E-Marking applies to the ENTIRE headlight unit (ie, the housing and lightbulbs). Therefore, if you change the halogen bulb for a HID bulb you are altering the way the headlight works and thereby invalidating the E-Mark which in turn is against the law.

However, in practice, companies (such as myself) are allowed to continue selling HID conversion kits so long as they are clearly marked "FOR OFF-ROAD USE ONLY" (which is what I do in all my advertising). I have personally operated my Zed with HID's for over three years now and (a) have never had a problem at MOT time and (b) not been pulled over by the police on account of my headlights.

The other part of the law concerns NEW vehicles which come onto the UK/EU market with so-called Xenon headlights direct from the manufacturers. These MUST have self-leveling systems and washer units in order to be considered LEGAL. Their headlights will have an E-Mark based on the headlight unit and HID bulb in it. If you were to change the HID bulb to a halogen bulb then that would be illegal as well - go figure!

What is of utmost importance when retrofitting HID kits to your car is that you:

(a) check the headlight alignment after installation (99% of HID converted headlights will be aimed too high due to longer bulb changing the focal point of the projector lens), and
(b) keep both the INSIDE and OUTSIDE of your headlight glass (and projector lens) clean.

With regard to point (b) above, dirty headlights will scatter the light emitted by the HID bulb and cause glare to oncoming drivers. Remember, HID bulbs burn approximately 300% brighter than the brightest halogen bulb so the potential to blind oncoming traffic is significantly increased with HID equipped headlights.

Now for the colours:

4500K: pure white (mostly fitted to new cars as OEM equipment)
6000K: white/blue (most effective upgrade when retrofitting)
8000K: white/purple (less light output than 6000K kit)
10000K+: purple (even less light output than 8000K kit)

I have been selling HID kits for over 3 years now and only sell the 6000K kits. If you are worried about being pulled over by the police on account of your headlights I would STRONGLY suggest you DO NOT fit 8000K or 10000K kits as these are far too purple and will be picked out by the police or MOT station. Also, there is hardly any benifit in fitting the 8000K/10000K kits as you won't have any more light put out onto the road than with the stock 55W halogen bulbs.

Furthermore, for those of you worried that upgrading your headlights with HID's will melt the wiring harness - it WON'T! Stock halogen bulbs consume 55W of power, HID's consume 28~35W of power once warmed up. The initial current and voltage require to ignite the bulbs is significantly higher but is completely regulated by the ballast. The car-side wiring loom never sees more than a 55W draw and so will not "melt".

HID conversions are more suited to cars equipped with projector style headlights than reflector style
 
I'm finding my standard p2 projector lights very poor. In fact they're dangerous. At night driving along unlit roads I can literally only see 5-6 meters in front of me.

I'm going to head into a nissan dealer and make sure they arent the ones that needed to be replaced in a recall, although the bulb housing hasnt melted which was a 'feature' of pre-recall units. That and have the alignment checked.
 
I got my headlights changed when it was recalled. luckly I never fitted my HIDs then so I was ok if not I would of been screwed. the wiring loom is well fucked up on the headlights on my original one they started to burn the connectors. no problems at the moment :-)
 
The problem with the projector lights is that the reflector area is very small. The 300zx suffers from this as it's well known as having some of the worst lights in any production car.

Ivan
 
HID converted cars are illegal unless the vehicle is equipped with self levelling headlights to account for hill gradients AND headlamp washers.
 
Can somebody please clarify the difference between HID Kits and the HID bulbs you can get? Big price difference and Ive tried to find a big difference but cant really get it.

Fitted HID blue tinted bulbs to a Pug 406 and it wasnt too good. Looked good but nowhere near good enough at night, particularly full beam!

Unsure what to go for as HID kits vary in price but want to see without the yellow tint in the headlight.

Cheers
 
Blue tint 'HID' bulbs aren't HID at all. HID stands for high intensity discharge which works in a similar way to a neon or flourescent light, whereas the blue tint ones are standard halogen. They are sometimes branded as xenon due to a small portion of the inert gas being xenon and the rest halogen, but simply with a blue tint to change the colour. A lot of legal, untinted bulbs are xenon filled, whether it actually makes any difference I don't know. Often the blue tinted ones will be a higher wattage to make them a bit brighter. HID bulbs are a different colour due to the way they work.

Plus all aftermarket H4 bulbs over 60/55W are illegal.
 
So would the HID kit provide the same or more light compared to standard lights? Dont want to lose light like I did with the Xenon Halogen ones but like the look of HID's
 
edk my lasses ph2 lights are absolute shite too! they are absolute pants! as you say you can barely see the road infront of you there so poor!

baby2bubble with the HID kit you get ballasts with the bulbs and its summit to do with then that the light is so bright. i'm not going to try and go into it as i don't haave a clue what it is they do but all i know is there awesome! i'd never go back to normal bulbs now!
 
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