Spray Help

Darren198712

Just chillin'
ok I thorght you needed

Primer, Paint and Lacquer

but I called up a mate and he said I need Base Coat

I was wondering what the hell is base coat is this primer or ???
 
I am spraying

Front Bumper
Rear Bumper
Bonnet, Roof and front driver wing

I found out what base coat is its the actual paint :confused:

guess the spray guy was trying to confused me lol
 
Schnakey said:
What are you spraying? 2pack, waterbase, celly?

Darren198712 said:
I am spraying

Front Bumper
Rear Bumper
Bonnet, Roof and front driver wing

hes asking what type of paint you will be using aswell, might be useful if you let him know. . . . (im guessing he can help you, doesnt look like anyone else you know is giving you any decent advice)

your car must be still be worth a few grand and your going to start painting the roof, bonnet and wing? removeable parts i can understand, but you must be made of money if you can risk making a complete mess and getting a terrible paint match on a car worth a decent amount of money :eek: experience means more than anything, on a budget i can understand people having a go themselves and if i had the balls i would do mine myself instead of wasting money but on a car worth as much as yours you must be insane.
 
I am not sure what paint I will be using lol I am going to get that from the paint shop as I am going to get advice there. Oh yeah I missed Boot off that list

I should be getting a mate to help me out with spraying as I seen his spray work on another car and its a decent job. Only think is that the lacquer dribbled but if you wet and dry it with really fine paper and then buffer it out you should not see the lacquer marks
 
agreed, ive had a go at painting in the past, bumpers, door handles, mirrors etc which is fine, but i wouldnt attempt a bonnet, let alone a roof. a roof is the most difficult panel to paint on a car even in the right conditions and for an experienced painter. Also with the wing, if the paint match is slightly out it will look awful against the rest of the side of the car. for a car like yours better to get a professional job!!!
 
I am spraying the roof as I want to remove the aerial and there is a slight rust patch on it. I should not worry about the rust patch on the roof as its not rusting anymore but I just wanted to remove the aerial and thought I might as well spray the roof.

I need to get someone to pull 2 dents on in the rear wings. not sure which one now but it looks like car park dents when some noob opens the and don't car that they dented your car.

List to paint
Front Bumper
Rear Bumper
Bonnet
Roof
front driver wing
Boot
 
well firstly your gonna need to seperate sectors of base primer

Your gonna need a plastic primer for your bumpers
and a base/celly/2k primer - dependant on body work - poss polyester dependant on what work your doing

plastic/base primer use a standard base thinners 50/50 - 60/40
celly uses celly thinners (obviously) 50/50 - 60/40
2k needs its own hardner aswell as thinners 50primer/50 hardner / 10% thinners
polyester is harder to use - poly/thinners with activator

once all that is done and that IS th emost important - as this is the keying - taking that u have sanded down eetc - fdont go straight ontop of old paint

once thats smooooooooooth etc - perfect

then its the paint!

any metallic will be base as it needs laquering

if its a block colour you can get away with 2k - but id only do black and white in 2k paint

any other colour use base paint -

base paint 50/50 with thinners - 60/40 if your wanting a thick 1st coat to check angles/dents etc - then use 50/50 top coats - 3 coats of each

you can fine sand the first 2 coats and then the third basically just dust on so it just covers the score marks

then u can go to the laquer

2k laquer - 50/50 - 10% thinners

once the paint has settled and is solid bout an hour of drying - dont touch the paint just let it dry

DONT mix laquer till ur gonna use it -

then knock up the pressure on the compressor slightly - and give the full car a dusting so that u can see a shimmer on all the paint
(depending on gun - gravity/canister etc) find gravity alot better for laquer gives more an even surface

spray nozzle to spray verticle
start from top and go down - starting over the top of the item and then moving down

using bombing technique (spray across - take hand of so it stopsthe start again under neath rather than constant pressure as u will find u double up at the ends causing runs

overlapping the last line across by half should get an even surface (practice makes perfect)

DONT worry if it doesnt look even spread - worst thing u can do is try make it even (itll run)

leve to set about 15/20 mins and a nice constant room temperature - obviously bit warmer helps the process) 1st cot should be tacky- go for it again (kinda works out that if u mix a tub at a tiume to fill your gun, by the tiome u finished the car and then mixed a new batch - its time to start the first bit again - so ur constantly working)
again following the same process

leave the laquer to dry after the last coat for 48/72 hours to fully harden

1200 w/d paper WET very weet

then once u dont eh lot -

FAIRLY liqued on 1200 and go over it again- fairy stops it cutting as much again giving smoother finish
once compolete car done

flannel whole car down
keep car wet
G3 all over - prefered with a buffer keeping car wet as to not scorch the paint. keep the buffer away from edges and do these by hand

HOPE THIS HELPS

good luck it takes time to get better and better results

:)
wayne
QDdevelopments
 
Darren198712 said:
thanks for that It was useful I will start getting the stuff once I have my side skirts on the car.

Paint the wing before you fit the skirts. the skirts cover part of the wing, and may make painting the wing after fitting the skirts a little ackward.
 
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