2004 sat nav almera - can i change cd player

yer they do look very similar to the pk1 n16 phillip!i can remember from when i changed my head unit. i only changed my head unit about 10 days ago too so i still have a pretty good pic in my head of it.
 
The two options I gave before are real options, but this one's just a possibility:

Swap about screen for double DIN unit and find a way to get output video of OEM system into input on new double DIN unit. That would be the best setup in my eyes as it brings the stereo controls up to a better level and it makes it all touch screen :D more expensive than option 1, but less expensive than option 2 and with more features.
 
Swap about screen for double DIN unit and find a way to get output video of OEM system into input on new double DIN unit. That would be the best setup in my eyes as it brings the stereo controls up to a better level and it makes it all touch screen :D more expensive than option 1, but less expensive than option 2 and with more features.

I was thinking of this before but by the looks of things the unit will just about fit into the screen place. also you need to hide the original screen. The heater controls do not work at all if the screen is unpluged. (my N16 anyway)

I don't think its as simple as finding a video output from the original screen. I think you may be able to get AV input into the original Screen

AV input ?
http://www.connects2.com/c2search.aspx?catID=48&manID=221&modID=840

not sure if this would work with the ipod but its a USB adapter
http://www.connects2.com/c2search.aspx?catID=53&manID=221&modID=840
 
Have you considered making a carPC? I'm sure you could integrate all the heating controls into that, I'm looking at building one for a small sum of around £250, if you wanted I could sort you out with a copy of centrafuse (http://www.fluxmedia.net/) for nothing, comes with navigation already, everything you need is right there...

You can buy 7" touchscreens for abou £150, then it's just a case of building a computer to run in the car (not hard if you know what to buy)...

It's another option for the N16 sat nav guys... if you want a bit more info I'll chat with you...
 
Have you considered making a carPC? I'm sure you could integrate all the heating controls into that, I'm looking at building one for a small sum of around £250, if you wanted I could sort you out with a copy of centrafuse (http://www.fluxmedia.net/) for nothing, comes with navigation already, everything you need is right there...

You can buy 7" touchscreens for abour £150, then it's just a case of building a computer to run in the car (not hard if you know what to buy)...

It's another option for the N16 sat nav guys... if you want a bit more info I'll chat with you...

I would rather get a AV input and then build a CarPC (Carputer) then get a touch screen modual and hook that up to the original screen (just sticks over the top of the screen) then USB it into the CarPC

Similar to this one
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/7-inch-Touch-Panel-Screen-Kit-Set-for-ASUS-Eee-PC-EeePC_W0QQitemZ290285960300QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Computing_LaptopAccess_RL?hash=item290285960300&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1301|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1318#ebayphotohosting
 
^Similar to my idea then but with the CarPC rather than the double DIN screen/unit. Sounds viable.

Philip is that right then, you can use the CarPC to control the heating etc? I think that might throw off the car's electrics though, espically as notaclue found that messing with the electrics meant not having headlights that work! lol God knows why the headlights would be links to the audio/computer console. Need a wirering diagram, or Darren if you can see where the video goes into the screen? Then there may be a way wire on a phono plug.

p.s. if you're going to keep the OEM climate controls Darren then the CarPC seems a bit overkill.
 
I'm not saying you definitely can use the CarPC to control the heating etc, but if you can find out how it's controlled etc, all the technical bits, I'm sure it wouldn't be too hard to interface a pc to the car. I'll do a bit of digging for you.
 
p.s. if you're going to keep the OEM climate controls Darren then the CarPC seems a bit overkill.
I was thinking of getting a CarPC but no point to be honest I got a laptop and I got a Xbox with Media Center loaded onto it with a 250gb hard drive so no problems with media.

I'm not saying you definitely can use the CarPC to control the heating etc, but if you can find out how it's controlled etc, all the technical bits, I'm sure it wouldn't be too hard to interface a pc to the car. I'll do a bit of digging for you.
hmmmmm I would not play about with that stuff. could be expensvie lol.
 
Yeah I was thinking that, plus there's the unknown :/ Thanks though Philip potentially it could be great but knowing how complex Nissan like to make their electrics it's best not to play with! :)
 
This question has provoked a lot of interest. I saw an ex Halfords fitter today who was stumped. Trouble is it all runs through the cd player and I just cannot tell what wire colour corresponds to what function. There is no ISO harness and next to no info on the web. It was all very naive and frankly stupid to play about with it all in the first place. I'm now gunning for getting the original unit all plugged back in a and fully functional (need an unlock code) and then I'll sell the car and buy one without the sat nav. Sat nav is outdated anyway. Thanks for all your suggestions and hope you all sort out your relevant situations. Moral of the story, a little knowledge is a dangerous thing.
 
If I could get hold of wiring diagrams ed, I reckon I could knock up a design to control the heaters etc through USB or RS232 serial... Thus making the carpc a viable option. So if anybody can get any circuit diagrams... I would look at the FSM but I can't download it at uni :(
 
That would be great if you could :) I've only got an FSM for the phase 1 N16. Will see if I can sweet talk Westend Garage into supplying me one for the p2 diesel.
 
This question has provoked a lot of interest. I saw an ex Halfords fitter today who was stumped. Trouble is it all runs through the cd player and I just cannot tell what wire colour corresponds to what function. There is no ISO harness and next to no info on the web. It was all very naive and frankly stupid to play about with it all in the first place. I'm now gunning for getting the original unit all plugged back in a and fully functional (need an unlock code) and then I'll sell the car and buy one without the sat nav. Sat nav is outdated anyway. Thanks for all your suggestions and hope you all sort out your relevant situations. Moral of the story, a little knowledge is a dangerous thing.

get a pre ph2 mate. they seem alot easier to work with. i have a 2002 one and my lass has a 2004 one and if i'm to be honest i prefere mine to hera. i aint just saying that because its mine i honestly do prefere it. i'll try get a pic up tonight of my new headunit in my dash. it covers my heater dails but it dont make any difference to me as i know where everything is.
 
ah right i didn't relise that edk. i knew one of the models had a different set up but didn't relise it was the same as mine. i prefere the dash in mine to my lasses car like. (hers is the same shape as yours mate)
 
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