is there any way i can get the almera lower than 40mm with out buying coilovers

air bags or hydraulics, any lower than the 40mm and your damper travel will be too short and they bottom out
 
Damo-Sri said:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/91-9...015QQitemZ250088902796QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWD2V

These ones? What the fuck are they, surely they wont fit or lower anything?
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Yes they will, but because you are lowering and sacrificing travel with std length dampers you need STIFF sprigs to stop them bottoming out which in turn require STIFF damping which you won't have ;)

If you wanna know how they will work....
The threaded collars slide over the std dampers and the short springs sit on the adjustable collars. You then adjust height with the collars.
 
N15 suspension, especially at the rear has very limited travel. Lowering more than 40mm will f**k it up. Coilovers is the ONLY way.
 
rowdy-GTi said:
N15 suspension, especially at the rear has very limited travel. Lowering more than 40mm will f**k it up. Coilovers is the ONLY way.
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Shame coilovers are so god damn stiff for road use :roll:

Is there a technical reason why someone doesn't do a coilover that is only say, twice the spring rate (with appropriate damping), rather than up to 3+ times std N15 springs ?
 
almeratastic said:
Shame coilovers are so god damn stiff for road use :roll:

Is there a technical reason why someone doesn't do a coilover that is only say, twice the spring rate (with appropriate damping), rather than up to 3+ times std N15 springs ?
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Because the dampers are already shortened then the travel isn't massive and too soft a spring rate would have you bottoming out or going coil bound with parallel wound springs.

Saying that, I do know that Dave ran 5/3.5 on his P10 in the US on his D2's and loved it. The std P10 eGT rates are 2kg/mm all round (the G20 has slightly softer rates) so not a massive increase. D2's std rates for the P10 are something like 10/5, I'm running 7/5.

I might try a set of 3.5kg/mm springs for the rear and move the 5's up front. My car is a little stiff for a 5 week old baby :eek:
 
markbuts3 said:
My car is a little stiff for a 5 week old baby :eek:
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LOL - I can just picture the baby bouncing everywhere with projectile vomit all over - just like the scouts eating on the rollercoaster on Jim'll fix it :lol:
 
almeratastic said:
LOL - I can just picture the baby bouncing everywhere with projectile vomit all over - just like the scouts eating on the rollercoaster on Jim'll fix it :lol:
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Lol it's not that bad, in fact it sends him to sleep, but I cringe when I hit a big bump and keep looking at him to see how much it shakes him about.
 
markbuts3 said:
Because the dampers are already shortened then the travel isn't massive and too soft a spring rate would have you bottoming out or going coil bound with parallel wound springs.

Saying that, I do know that Dave ran 5/3.5 on his P10 in the US on his D2's and loved it. The std P10 eGT rates are 2kg/mm all round (the G20 has slightly softer rates) so not a massive increase. D2's std rates for the P10 are something like 10/5, I'm running 7/5.

I might try a set of 3.5kg/mm springs for the rear and move the 5's up front. My car is a little stiff for a 5 week old baby :eek:
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If anything comes of this Mark, let me know as I may be interested. One thing though, will the dampers be in tollerance if the spring rates are changed by any significant amount ? Don't want to bugger them up.
 
almeratastic said:
If anything comes of this Mark, let me know as I may be interested. One thing though, will the dampers be in tollerance if the spring rates are changed by any significant amount ? Don't want to bugger them up.
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That's the thing. D2 only recommend a change of 1 or 2kg/mm from the std rates that come with the coilovers. I assume that's because softer springs will allow bottoming out ???

But at 7kg/mm in the front then I'm already 3 or 4kg/mm softer than std rates. And Dave's car is still running around with the soft springs afaik.

I did start to look into adding some progressive tender springs to my current springs but that's an expensive proposition at about £270 for the 4 springs and spring connectors and I haven't even checked if the damper is long enough and if there is enough clearance for that yet anyway.
 
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