The 2.0 16v Mk3s, despite looking heavy (they actually aren't really, even the VR6 is only about 1180kg), was just a tiny bit of a gap faster than the GTI I had, good sport...
N15 GTi v GOLF Mk2 GTi
- Thread starter Maninblue1
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you talkin straight line speed or through the twisties?
yeh totally agree mate, just wondered if through the twisties these guys couldn't drive or summin.
think a 16v be pretty similar, 8v not tho. aren't they 112bhp? 17s 1/4 mile? v. cool car but not super fast
...but not to be underestimated still. I had to really try from a 3rd gear roll coming out of a village and going up a hill. If I'd been on the ball and in 2nd I'd have had no problems, but still, I was quite impressed.
Are they really that good on petrol? A guy I know at work used to drive one, he said he once got 74mpg (seventy four) out of a tank, he's in the habit of bullshitting though and that seems like the kinda figure it'd be hard to average out of a modern 1.4 diesel, so I disbelieved him...?
Are they really that good on petrol? A guy I know at work used to drive one, he said he once got 74mpg (seventy four) out of a tank, he's in the habit of bullshitting though and that seems like the kinda figure it'd be hard to average out of a modern 1.4 diesel, so I disbelieved him...?
Straight line, B-road, Tesco, any fucking where. Jesus is it really so hard to accept that an 'old' car with SLIGHTLY less power is no match for the mighty GTi?
Obviously so. Im not saying its the quickest car in the world, neither is the N15 Gti the slowest, but in my experience of driving my Golf (the counter arguement to this thread) the N15 Gti is the slower car. This is due to myself out performing 2 in B and A road driving situations as far as the other driver was prepared to take their car.
Sould i ever come up against Rowdy's, Dale's, or even Naylors HIGHLY MODIFED examples then im in no doubt that ill get my arse handed to me. But that isnt the point, all the counter argemnts so far have been based on book times and Wikipedia facts and figures tossed around like confetti at a wedding.
Throw in a few variables like Tarmac, Shit drivers, a week of shopping in the boot or even a slight breeze and those numbers mean dick all. The fleshy lump sat behind the wheel is also a massive variable.
So instead of dragging the statistics up and bashing the keyboard with lb/ft and 15.41sec q/m and all that shit how about the nay-sayers out there get in there beloved Almera's and go find a Golf or an Escort or a disability scooter and race it.
How do you KNOW you GTi is quicker than a moped until you've raced one? Assumption is the mother of all fuck ups.
Obviously so. Im not saying its the quickest car in the world, neither is the N15 Gti the slowest, but in my experience of driving my Golf (the counter arguement to this thread) the N15 Gti is the slower car. This is due to myself out performing 2 in B and A road driving situations as far as the other driver was prepared to take their car.
Sould i ever come up against Rowdy's, Dale's, or even Naylors HIGHLY MODIFED examples then im in no doubt that ill get my arse handed to me. But that isnt the point, all the counter argemnts so far have been based on book times and Wikipedia facts and figures tossed around like confetti at a wedding.
Throw in a few variables like Tarmac, Shit drivers, a week of shopping in the boot or even a slight breeze and those numbers mean dick all. The fleshy lump sat behind the wheel is also a massive variable.
So instead of dragging the statistics up and bashing the keyboard with lb/ft and 15.41sec q/m and all that shit how about the nay-sayers out there get in there beloved Almera's and go find a Golf or an Escort or a disability scooter and race it.
How do you KNOW you GTi is quicker than a moped until you've raced one? Assumption is the mother of all fuck ups.
VZR
PRECISELY!! - those variables are probably the difference between you and the 2 n15's you decimated. but it could quite easily have been the other way round with different drivers.
no-ones bashing golfs, or mera's or anything. all i'm saying, like others, is that i've never had problems from mk2 golfs. they're pretty similar, mera or golf - neither are particularly fast.
i just don't understand why you'd say a standard mk2 would 'decimate' or even beat an n15? it's bollox. precisely because of the variables you stated. and especially when, even tho an 8v is lighter it's 30bhp down?
as for quoting book times etc. they're are probably more reliable than yours or my 2 or 3 little plays with said cars. they're there for a reason and have probably been clocked by more consistently good drivers than you or I.
all i, and others seem to be saying, is that 16v golf and mera are probably fairly similar, golf possibly slightly quicker. but 8v a little slower maybe. it's no biggy, but to say the mera will be decimated in any situation is just bollox.
also^^^ wot rowdy said bout golfs. i love em and wouldn't mind 1 one day. i don't some secret thing against them!! lol
damo...... fella what would you expect on AOC, imagine me poppin over to VAG club and saying
im faster than you... im faster than you!!!
even if the mk2 gti was quicker some how, the long and short of it is the N15 GTi your comparing it to is a better car ultimately.
im faster than you... im faster than you!!!
even if the mk2 gti was quicker some how, the long and short of it is the N15 GTi your comparing it to is a better car ultimately.
http://www.carfolio.com/specifications/models/car/?car=101530
0 - 100kph in 9.0s (which is 62mph) and if i remember correctly the almera is 7.9
0 - 100kph in 9.0s (which is 62mph) and if i remember correctly the almera is 7.9
http://www.carfolio.com/specifications/models/car/?car=101530
0 - 100kph in 9.0s (which is 62mph) and if i remember correctly the almera is 7.9
Factoryspecs says a N15 GTi does the 0-100kph in 8,2. All relative ofcourse.
I remember this silly line from Tokyo Drift: It's not the ride, it's the driver. Although it sounded stupid from that actor, it's true.
An Escort RS2000 is, on paper, slightly slower then a N15 GTi. A buddy of mine has one, no engine mods. My GTi has no engine mods either. We're planning on doing a quartermile on a legal strip someday, to see what happens. If I shift to soon, have a bad start, whatever, he'll beat me. That's for sure.
It's nice and all to say that one car is quicker then the other, but it's not the car that's doing the driving.
NaylorGTS
AOC Moderator
Damo, I wasnt talking about when mine was modified, when I first got mine in '99 every one still had golfs, clios, R5's, RS2000's etc. Especially golfs, a mate of mine called hicksy and his mates (kenna and will), cant remember the other names but I think they'll go on the vag forums, anyway theyre still rocking the old vags and restore one practacly every year, anyway thats when I used to race them etc, standard form I never saw what people saw in them, with the later mrk 3 gti engine in they were a little better, the vr6 was good in a straight line, supercharged vr6 was even better(kenna built a couple of those) but a tuned 1.8 boosted lump out of the mrk 4's or TT's are the best Ive been in.
probably a good example to show what variables can do, i beat a brand new civic type R in my eGT, technically im pretty sure there quicker (if not type R's have gone seriously down hill), but at that moment in time i beat him, and the fact he was seriously pissed off about loosing showed he must have been giving it some, but 9 times out of 10 i bet he would have beaten me hands down, had a similar thing with a fiesta ST as well, pretty sure that should have won but on that day it didnt etc.
