SR20VE conversion

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/JDM-...019QQitemZ290130401504QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWD2V

Would this engine go straight into a mera (comes with ecu/maf etc etc) and would an original 5 speed box fit instead of the 6 speed automatic that's currently on it?

Would anything need to be uprated on the vehicle too (ie driveshafts etc)
I know uprated brakes would deffo be needed hahaha!!

I'm just pondering the idea that's all depending on how difficult it would be I know other people have done the conversion.

Thanks dudes!! :D
 
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lmfao at that photo :lol: :lol: :lol:

Should be a straight swap, but you'd have to have all the bits and the ECU etc to make the VVL work I think :confused:
 
and after 4 shite replies Slapster, I really wouldnt blame you for not signing up to being a member.

honestly guys get a fucking grip, this kind of shit is wearing so thin, helps no-one and basically signals the demise of the club.

SR20VE is going to be like any other engine swap on any car, the engine will physically fit but common stuff will need upgrading, brakes, suspension, tyres as you'll probably be driving faster when its fitted
 
The only bit of useful info I have is, just DET it.

After many hours scrolling the SR20 forum, N/A just sucks :mad:

It cost BigAl about 2k altogeher and that is with him putting the engine himself. And for what? Differnet yes. A quick 2.0l yes? But no quiker than a tuned DE.

You can have a 220bhp GTi-R engine in and running for sub £1500.

*this is just what I think*
 
some useful info mate:

a few people on here have done VE conversion's including paul_d, their is a dedicated site for neo vvl engines at www.neovvl.co.uk . Paul_D has also done a very good write up on there about his de to VE conversion, if you are thinking of doing the same i suggest reading it as alot of the info you need is there.

Make sure you get the VE ECU and MAF sensor as aparently it run's better, but im far from an expert on the matter!

The brakes shouldn't need upgrading aslong as you have gti disc's and pad's all round, nissan stopper's arn;t half bad aslong as they are maintained properly

N/A dusn't suck :(
 
GTi kurt said:
The only bit of useful info I have is, just DET it.

You can have a 220bhp GTi-R engine in and running for sub £1500.

*this is just what I think*


my point of view also..
plus that 220bhp is just a starting point compared to a near limt for n/a (with out spending stupid money)
but i guess i would think that with my boy friend having had a 200sx and a gti-r....
i miss boost :O
 
hes not asking what you would all drop in hes asking for information on fitting it and if it would fit, everyone saying N/A suck's isn't really helping...
 
N/A is cool, that's why im spending loads on my DE.

But when swapping engines why swap a healthy 145bhp engine that is good for 200hp?

With one which has 190bhp and can cause lots of hassle.
 
n/a sucks? drive a vvl and come back and say that...turbo is a completely different ball game...you can drive a sr-ve to the redline all the way get out..and the next time you get in it will be exactly the same..owning a turbo is like having a relationship...
one minute your grinning from ear to ear..the next you pull you hair out ..i love both but 230 is possible from an sr20ve with sr16 cams..with 230 your already past the limits of the chassis....as they say power is nothing without control...torque steer would also be much worse if your where making the torque down low..i would take the vvl set up for a FWD..don't mind what fat yanks on sr20 forum say they only wanna go in a straight line
 
Never driven VVL but drove plenty of vtec, can't compare I know. But everyone hypes on about it like losing their virginity.

I never got my head pinned back or got a tingly feeling, I just heard a very loud groan.
And not 'that' much happened.

I know what your saying about control and that, but a basic setup on low boost would be enough. For some great country driving.

But..........until i drive a VVL and a DET almera, these are barely comments plucked out of my head.
 
Slapster said:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/JDM-...019QQitemZ290130401504QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWD2V

Would this engine go straight into a mera (comes with ecu/maf etc etc) and would an original 5 speed box fit instead of the 6 speed automatic that's currently on it?
:D
Right mate, as far as I know, the engine itself, not the gearbox, should swap in. You should be able to bolt up the DE gearbox to the VE engine as I dont think there was any difference between the manual/auto engines themselves, however I am unsure as to whether the ECU would work? Paul_D_GTi used an SR16VE ECU with a piggyback chip IIRC, the 16 ecu adjusts the vvl fueling etc to make it 'work', I think there are some VZ-R's being broken in ireland you could get the ECU from.
 
dagnut said:
n/a sucks? drive a vvl and come back and say that...turbo is a completely different ball game...you can drive a sr-ve to the redline all the way get out..and the next time you get in it will be exactly the same..owning a turbo is like having a relationship...
one minute your grinning from ear to ear..the next you pull you hair out ..i love both but 230 is possible from an sr20ve with sr16 cams..with 230 your already past the limits of the chassis....as they say power is nothing without control...torque steer would also be much worse if your where making the torque down low..i would take the vvl set up for a FWD..don't mind what fat yanks on sr20 forum say they only wanna go in a straight line

Completely agree with what you've put here mate. I don't know much about SR20VE's but if they're anything like the DE I know it'll be bulletproof reliability and a shitload quicker. My mera is pretty quick so god knows what these VE's go like!! Aren't they about 183bhp standard or somethin?

NA sucks? I don't agree. And to be honest I don't agree at all with going down the SR20DET route because they're pretty fragile, i've known a lot of Pulsar GTi-R's go bang so why would I want one of those in a Mera? It's not 4WD like a GTi-R too so it'd be an awful drive really...and probably a deathtrap i'd end up wrapped round a tree!!

I know that the DE can be tuned up to the 200bhp mark as mentioned, but then again is it worthwhile seeing as the VE is almost at that mark anyway....so in that case which would you think would be cheaper, tuning a DE up to about 190bhp or buying a VE? (bearing in mind that is just engine/ecu/maf and all running gear etc cost no labour costs)??

Thanks for all the advice guys really appreciate it, i'm only pondering like I said could be a future project depending on dollar.

Sorry if you've heard all this shit before but I am new hahaha!! :)
 
Corbs said:
Right mate, as far as I know, the engine itself, not the gearbox, should swap in. You should be able to bolt up the DE gearbox to the VE engine as I dont think there was any difference between the manual/auto engines themselves, however I am unsure as to whether the ECU would work? Paul_D_GTi used an SR16VE ECU with a piggyback chip IIRC, the 16 ecu adjusts the vvl fueling etc to make it 'work', I think there are some VZ-R's being broken in ireland you could get the ECU from.

Aye sounds good to me mate especially if the DE box fits, that link I provided comes with everything needed (maf/ecu etc etc) so i shouldn't need anything else really should I? Seems a good deal to me.
 
And also sorry if anyone disagrees with me asking advice when i'm not an AOC member yet. I do plan on becoming a member soon definitely.

I like the site and the people on here are very helpful. I've asked quite a bit of advice on here already and the help received has been shithot.

It's all good!
 
You might want to double check about the auto/manual box bolting up though mate, I have heard nissan to be a bit different, for example on micras, the 1.3 auto block bolts up to a manual box but the block itself is stronger!
 
use the 20ve ecu not a 16ve ecu if your using as 20ve engine, on the other hand using 16ve cam's in a 20ve give's nice gain's i've heard

also if your using a 20ve ecu and you donot want ot control the vvl yourself, a piggyback ecu shouldn't be needed. If you want to i'd use something like the greddy mss. Info on the greddy mss can be found at:

http://jgycustoms.com/vvl.htm

hope this help's
 
GTi kurt said:
Never driven VVL but drove plenty of vtec, can't compare I know. But everyone hypes on about it like losing their virginity.

I never got my head pinned back or got a tingly feeling, I just heard a very loud groan.
And not 'that' much happened.

I know what your saying about control and that, but a basic setup on low boost would be enough. For some great country driving.

But..........until i drive a VVL and a DET almera, these are barely comments plucked out of my head.

I didnt mean it like it was some magical experince or anything...i just personally find they are easy to drive quickly because the power is high is the rev range with the correct gear selection its easy to keep her singing true the bend and out..some people dont like the lack of low down torque and it can be a p!sser having to shift down all the time but it makes for a fun drive imo and suits a FWD set up
 
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