Mov's Micra
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Boost sounds fun.. would rape on the motorway for sure.
What was Dbulls best time in his old turbo'd mirca nyhoo
What was Dbulls best time in his old turbo'd mirca nyhoo
Sim's your turbo conversion lost to Dales n/a right? Time wise.
Also a 200bhp turbo would not be a better drive than a 200 n/a.
I can talk, I've had both
Dale has 218bhp compared to stu 320bhp.
13.84 to 13.02.
So a 230bhp turbo?
Anyway not trying to cause arguments, just stating facts.
Turbo future potential yes 100% better, but based on a low boosted 230bhp set is it better/ worth it?
Also a 200bhp turbo would not be a better drive than a 200 n/a.
I can talk, I've had both
Dale has 218bhp compared to stu 320bhp.
13.84 to 13.02.
So a 230bhp turbo?
Anyway not trying to cause arguments, just stating facts.
Turbo future potential yes 100% better, but based on a low boosted 230bhp set is it better/ worth it?
Just when you were doing so well.
I only ever did 6 runs with my +T. The last one being a 13.9...... at York on budget tyres. It was after all, a bit of fun. Before people like yourself starting spouting constant verbal diarrhoea.
Why oh why you're so obsessed with 1/4 mile is beyond me. Would you like to have known the outcome between a 40mph rolling start N/A vs Turbo, because it would be a fucking embarrassment you silly prick. Get a grip or simply fuck off from shitting in everyones thread.
1/4 mile Drip boy.
I only ever did 6 runs with my +T. The last one being a 13.9...... at York on budget tyres. It was after all, a bit of fun. Before people like yourself starting spouting constant verbal diarrhoea.
Why oh why you're so obsessed with 1/4 mile is beyond me. Would you like to have known the outcome between a 40mph rolling start N/A vs Turbo, because it would be a fucking embarrassment you silly prick. Get a grip or simply fuck off from shitting in everyones thread.
1/4 mile Drip boy.
mov. you have 100% made the correct choice.
A GTi engine with a turbo on it is a superb beast. a GTiR engine is a strangled P.O.S which is now well and truly out of date. andy i assume you are basing your 230hp experience on a GTiR... well there is more to performance than power and torque... the major player is throttle response. the GTiR is about as responsive as a quadriplegic dodging a bullet...
on the road a fast responding turbo on an SR20 will annihilate any NA competition short of a 4.0L, including Vtec gods...
A GTi engine with a turbo on it is a superb beast. a GTiR engine is a strangled P.O.S which is now well and truly out of date. andy i assume you are basing your 230hp experience on a GTiR... well there is more to performance than power and torque... the major player is throttle response. the GTiR is about as responsive as a quadriplegic dodging a bullet...
on the road a fast responding turbo on an SR20 will annihilate any NA competition short of a 4.0L, including Vtec gods...
Firstly you keep and mentioning class... What class am i in? at the very most a non almera SR20DE+T, which ill be the one and only
Also iv got all the parts for the turbo conversion so only need a map if that. Even got a clutch (nicked from ammar
).And VVL its not as easy as -- "VVl head, n1 cams, remap= 200+"
Head
ECU
Map
Cams
H.G
Others
Easily £1500+...
Is a car only based on 1/4miles... if it was then N/A otherwise turbo
Even if my times are shit than my N/A i wont be bothered cause its a completely different feeling
and trust me iv had both turbo and n/a ( two where 220+)
Dont get me wrong i love N/A as its fun, hassle free etc... but turbo is just another level whether you like it or not
a well built turbo build is always gonna be better, faster, easier and cheaper both on track and road imo.
a well balanced build that has minimal lag but doesn't run out of steam high up will have an epic wide powerband and bags of torque, you wouldn't even have to try in it.
n/a costs a lot more and takes a lot more effort to not get the same result.
Thats all comin from a die hard n/a geek, i think anyone who really wants to go all out n/a knows full well the pros/cons but if yuo're die hard n/a its not about that.
In an ideal world i'd have 2 cars, one turbo to use all the time with ease and never need to change gear to overtake etc. And a silly n/a build for big fun and working it hard but a pita as a daily.
a well balanced build that has minimal lag but doesn't run out of steam high up will have an epic wide powerband and bags of torque, you wouldn't even have to try in it.
n/a costs a lot more and takes a lot more effort to not get the same result.
Thats all comin from a die hard n/a geek, i think anyone who really wants to go all out n/a knows full well the pros/cons but if yuo're die hard n/a its not about that.
In an ideal world i'd have 2 cars, one turbo to use all the time with ease and never need to change gear to overtake etc. And a silly n/a build for big fun and working it hard but a pita as a daily.
Sig'd.
Now when you start to use names like this over the internet makes me wonder, was there any need, because I doubt most people who do never say it face to face.
Or is it Iam right and you are trying to make excuses.
Anyway, I have had a fwd Sr20det sunny with 307 bhp.
But let's not get it wrong.
Mov is talking about a low boost 230 bhp set up.
I have been in my low boost 220bhp fwd sunny before the boost hike, and the difference is much compared to at 300+.
It would be close with my current n/a set up.
But at the end of the day It's just discussion, however others take it to heart, and flow my posts around this forum like Twitter.
/Drip
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Think about it.... Do i have to text you?
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lol why whats wrong with that? or cos its comin from an n/a nerd?
Think about it.... Do i have to text you?
yeh i'm struggling here, it's monday
shaggy_master
brapp brapp!
Hahah Craig you thick fucker.
Mov - You have the parts, so it makes sense for you to go Turbo.
As others have said a well built turbo'd motor has more power and torque than a built N/A like, everywhere.
The only downsides being Transmission/Shaft problems and Grip!
Put it this way - If I'd spent what I've spent on my N/A Build on a turbo motor it would have like 1000+ HP or whatever, but no way of transferring that power to the ground lol, so it would be pointless.
Joe
Mov - You have the parts, so it makes sense for you to go Turbo.
As others have said a well built turbo'd motor has more power and torque than a built N/A like, everywhere.
The only downsides being Transmission/Shaft problems and Grip!
Put it this way - If I'd spent what I've spent on my N/A Build on a turbo motor it would have like 1000+ HP or whatever, but no way of transferring that power to the ground lol, so it would be pointless.
Joe
Just read your response Ross, your right...
Mine was an Sr20det fwd.
Mine was an Sr20det fwd.
Yeah ill be going turbo for now as iv got all the parts there, if for any reason it doesnt go as planned then ill go back to N/A and put the engine back in the primera. As easy as that lol
Atleast i can experience the powerzz in the micra
Nearly all parts needed are here 
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Got few question so any help would be appreciated...
1. As im not aiming for high power atm, is it worth me putting a uprated head gasket (1.5/1.8mm) and use ARP headstuds so i can boost it more if i want. Initially i was going to do that but, Ammar said if im only aiming for 250ish then its not worth it for as it will lower the compression etc... His advice was if i go through the hassle of doing that then i may as well put low comp piston and do the whole thing at once
What do you guys think?
2. Water cooled turbo - Is it really worth it, i have read in few place the pros, but worth the hassle on low boost set up?
3. GTiR clutch and flywheel fit SR20DE?
Cheers
...Got few question so any help would be appreciated...
1. As im not aiming for high power atm, is it worth me putting a uprated head gasket (1.5/1.8mm) and use ARP headstuds so i can boost it more if i want. Initially i was going to do that but, Ammar said if im only aiming for 250ish then its not worth it for as it will lower the compression etc... His advice was if i go through the hassle of doing that then i may as well put low comp piston and do the whole thing at once
What do you guys think?
2. Water cooled turbo - Is it really worth it, i have read in few place the pros, but worth the hassle on low boost set up?
3. GTiR clutch and flywheel fit SR20DE?
Cheers
Yes to water feed. Without it you can coke the oil passages and eventually starve the turbo of oil. It isnt expensive, so do it right!
Gtir clutch and fly wont fit. The fly has different bolt size and the clutch is splined differently.
Leave the engine unopened for 250hp. Itll be fine. The hg is the same as a det anyway so its good to 250 easily.
Gtir clutch and fly wont fit. The fly has different bolt size and the clutch is splined differently.
Leave the engine unopened for 250hp. Itll be fine. The hg is the same as a det anyway so its good to 250 easily.
Never done a water feed so will look in to HOW TO... did have a look in my cousin Starlet Turbo didnt look to hard to do