i know, i have an external coil. not sure the sunny does though....
yeh this is the decider i think, you prolly right...
anyway, i'd be getting de injectors and sunny maf back in, and maybe sunny dizzy. nothing then should really be stopping it
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i know, i have an external coil. not sure the sunny does though....
yeh this is the decider i think, you prolly right...
anyway, i'd be getting de injectors and sunny maf back in, and maybe sunny dizzy. nothing then should really be stopping it
I don't think it's the ve/DE dizzy as I had the exact same problem when the DE dizzy was on. The DE sunny dizzy did have external coil. However I have kept those parts.
As spook said my sunny engine as now been sold on. So if I was to go back and change to what your all suggesting I will need.
Sunny dizzy
Sunny injectors
Sunny maf plug and loom.
Iam thinking it should still fire up anyway, it may not run well but should still fire up. Iam seriously considering doing what corbs and red suggested firstly before anything else right now.
I think first I will look at the timing, out of sync distributor issue, then the immobiliser issue. Checking that the plugs are not wet and there is no flooding.
I was also thinking could it be any of the grounded wires not connected properly?
Then if it still fails to start then it's back to square one.
So if it makes any sense right now on the car.
Sr20ve engine, imported from states, never seen it running but told it is good.
Sr20ve dizzy with wiring done now with internal coil.
Almera gti maf and wiring which as been joined to the rest of the sunny maf loom.
Sunny gti ecu.
Aftermarket header and exhaust system that was on sunny before.
Cheers again all really appreciate your help and advice.
As spook said my sunny engine as now been sold on. So if I was to go back and change to what your all suggesting I will need.
Sunny dizzy
Sunny injectors
Sunny maf plug and loom.
Iam thinking it should still fire up anyway, it may not run well but should still fire up. Iam seriously considering doing what corbs and red suggested firstly before anything else right now.
I think first I will look at the timing, out of sync distributor issue, then the immobiliser issue. Checking that the plugs are not wet and there is no flooding.
I was also thinking could it be any of the grounded wires not connected properly?
Then if it still fails to start then it's back to square one.
So if it makes any sense right now on the car.
Sr20ve engine, imported from states, never seen it running but told it is good.
Sr20ve dizzy with wiring done now with internal coil.
Almera gti maf and wiring which as been joined to the rest of the sunny maf loom.
Sunny gti ecu.
Aftermarket header and exhaust system that was on sunny before.
Cheers again all really appreciate your help and advice.
If you test everything and it still wont start, try getting an auto-electrician out from the yellow pages. For the the sake of the callout charge and maybe an hours time he will be able to test the voltages to everything and maybe pinpoint the issue better than you can by trial and error.
Okay guys thanks again. I will do a problem diagnoses sheet with all the possible solutions mentioned, then try and cover each one to get to the possible fault. Cheers.
if it was the dizzy, then surely the plugs wouldn't spark?
i only said he shud take it to a garage and he told me to fuck,so its him that one of the mods shud be talking to.
you was quick to say i,ll buy it tho.
I know i was, for parts
I can get your injectors and MAF back mate if you really need it. The bits that were going to scrap haven't gone this week apparently so if you want me to keep them to one side for you in a box that'd be ok. Could post them back if you cover the postage. May be handy to have them just in case and they're going in the bin otherwise. Let me know.
Cheers mate, kept them to the side and i'll see.
Nah. Could be sparking in a random order.
just something you mentioned earlier, plug 4 being the far left, thats plug 1 isnt it?
i nearly did the VE dizzy on mine, but got to the point of wiring it and decided id do the DE dizzy instead, seems like the better option. how much of the wiring have you done yourself? are you able to go back through the loom and check everything is as it should be? iv checked all mine off and compared wiring diagrams, cross checked everything is as it should be etc before cutting any wires and have found the odd difference on the looms compared to whats accepted to be right on the net, mines a 92 p10 eGT so probably the same as yours. take it your using the sunny GTi ecu?
meant to be starting mine up tomorrow, so il find out if mine works then, but iv got it to the point were its basically like starting the original sr20 but doing it on a VE, once it runs il start swapping the maf, injectors etc, id do the same if i was you as you have got such a random set up with so little of the original bits left its not easy to say were the fault is imo.
i nearly did the VE dizzy on mine, but got to the point of wiring it and decided id do the DE dizzy instead, seems like the better option. how much of the wiring have you done yourself? are you able to go back through the loom and check everything is as it should be? iv checked all mine off and compared wiring diagrams, cross checked everything is as it should be etc before cutting any wires and have found the odd difference on the looms compared to whats accepted to be right on the net, mines a 92 p10 eGT so probably the same as yours. take it your using the sunny GTi ecu?
meant to be starting mine up tomorrow, so il find out if mine works then, but iv got it to the point were its basically like starting the original sr20 but doing it on a VE, once it runs il start swapping the maf, injectors etc, id do the same if i was you as you have got such a random set up with so little of the original bits left its not easy to say were the fault is imo.
My old sunny gti ran on the Sr20DE dizzy which came with external coil.
It ran well. After the Sr20VE swap it did not run when firstly using the Sr20DE dizzy. I have now swapped to the Sr20ve dizzy with internal coil. The wiring has been checked and seems fine.
I have just left the external coil bracket on in case I go back to Sr20DE coil. But that may not be possible as I have cut a few wires from the old Sr20DE dizzy set up.
To be honest I just think it is to do with the timing as the same starting issues happened with the Sr20DE dizzy.
Once I get someone to help with adjusting the timing marks/ dizzy Iam sure it should start.
If not then, well we'll see.
So hopefully the next updates should either be taking it to the mapper or taking it to the hammer.
Thanks again guys.
It ran well. After the Sr20VE swap it did not run when firstly using the Sr20DE dizzy. I have now swapped to the Sr20ve dizzy with internal coil. The wiring has been checked and seems fine.
I have just left the external coil bracket on in case I go back to Sr20DE coil. But that may not be possible as I have cut a few wires from the old Sr20DE dizzy set up.
To be honest I just think it is to do with the timing as the same starting issues happened with the Sr20DE dizzy.
Once I get someone to help with adjusting the timing marks/ dizzy Iam sure it should start.
If not then, well we'll see.
So hopefully the next updates should either be taking it to the mapper or taking it to the hammer.
Thanks again guys.
I wouldnt bother with timing marks, just get someone to turn the engine over and move the dizzy by hand til it makes a difference. Won't kill it (Straight away)