Ilsaw's QG18DE+T Dyno'd

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Picture of the stock links. I would say the Whiteline ones look a tad more beefy and stronger. Even the nuts of the Whiteline links are nyloc vs only a flanged nut for stock.
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Interesting stuff. Springs sound good, as do the shocks, but two queries really...

Why the expense not only for the superior dampers, but also the extra spring costs when this is a daily and not a track toy where the weight advantages will be best felt?

Is there a reason 2JR or yourself (not sure if available at all) didn't go for inverted dampers? Again if you're going the extra mile for weight loss, surely inverted would be the call to make. Related to this, I guess you can at least on these ERs mount the reservoirs in the chassis with extension lines to reduce unsprung weight,

I do however see the benefits of independent rebound and compression adjustment, even (if not especially) for the street. I can imagine a little softer compression even by a couple of clicks against the rebound could make for a better ride. With the option to crank it back for spirited driving and even more so for track. Not sure I could personally justify the cost though. I would say Meister R's reactive damping system would be a better investment.

Nice purchase though mate, hope the spring length is too much an issue.
 
Bought the dampers for its superior performance and independent adjustability not weight. I should think the ERs will weight more than a BR or RM series. Inverted dampers are stronger and also not less weight Mate.
 
Bought the Nismo Veruspeed oil filter. Will go in during my next oil change/service
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Also got Nismo exhaust hangers. These are solid rubber to hold my 3" exhaust firmly in place to minimize long term stress failure.
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Bought the dampers for its superior performance and independent adjustability not weight. I should think the ERs will weight more than a BR or RM series. Inverted dampers are stronger and also not less weight Mate.
But have less unsprung weight which is the main advantage of inverted. Also if you didn't buy for weight, why the extra expense for those springs? Not criticising mate, just curious :)

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But have less unsprung weight which is the main advantage of inverted. Also if you didn't buy for weight, why the extra expense for those springs? Not criticising mate, just curious :)

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Not really. We're talking a couple inches difference in the location of the mass. Inverted setups are primarily for strength which can be important in a McPherson front strut car . The only difference between the RM inverted model and the BR are the front struts only. The rear coilovers are the same. I've written a technical article on the different BC Racing dampers available for the N16 including diagram that illustrates the difference between a standard vs inverted piston. You can read it up here:

http://www.then16files.com/2011/06/coilover-dampers-for-slowtra-taiwanese.html

The advantages of Swift springs are listed in my blog writeup. Weight is one the advantage which I was hoping to compensate with the heavier ER dampers but it is not the only advantage.
 
I did read the blog obviously but the main focus seemed to be on the springs weight advantage so assumed that was why they were bought. As I said in my first post about this though, I do understand the advantage of external resevoir.

My understanding of inverted, its not about mass position per say, but the fact it's not on the side of the suspension that moves up and down, thus reducing unsprung weight significantly. But I too would choose the independent damper control over inverted anyway. I only mentioned it because I thought you were concerned with weight, but thats just my misinterpretation of your words :) (and remembering your search for titanium bolts everywhere influenced that).

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Frankly from my experience and from using inverted dampers on my previous car, weight was never on the agenda. That's why inverted dampers are really prevalent in rallying. I believe BC Racing likes to use weight as an advantage in their marketing talk for their RM series inverted coilover but then if weight was so high up their agenda why go and make the ER external reservoir model with the reservoir permanently attached to the damper body instead of connected via a longer hose for optimal placement and weight distribution.

Here's a quick suggestion btw on how to lose weight :) Ditch the spare tyre, toolkit and tyre jack for every day driving if you do not need to commute long distances. Instant 25+ kg weight loss! If you experience a flat make sure your phone's charged and people are still awake.

And speaking of titanium fasteners those M6 allen key bolts on the ER sure look like a good candidate for replacement...
 
Heh, already ditched those. Have you given up on the expensive hassle of finding titanium bolts for everything then? Lol

And yes I can well believe then that it was just BC's marketing that pushed the 'weight advantages'.

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Heh, already ditched those. Have you given up on the expensive hassle of finding titanium bolts for everything then? Lol

And yes I can well believe then that it was just BC's marketing that pushed the 'weight advantages'.

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No Sir. I have a fetish for titanium and aluminium fasteners. That will continue long term. Majority of my fasteners are from the UK btw ie Pro-Bolt and Hyperbolt.
 
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