sorry ed,spoke to the guy selling the eibach springs on ebay yesterday,he didnt really know what he was talking about but i rang eibach uk yesterday morning.they said that code was correct for my car,but when i checked with this guy the springs he had were only for upto a 1.8 almera,so no good.he has now taken them off ebay!.so now looking at apex springs,£105.....vs.....£182 for [email protected] you reccomend apex or should i spend a bit more and go for h@r,or is there no difference in car stance and ride quality?.....thanks for your help...:helpsmilie: