Short Shifter

right the way i see it is that with a short shifter, the shaft beneath the pivot point is longer then there is more leverage therefore the gear will be selected soon with less movement of the gear stick above the pivot point correct?

if you simply chop the shaft down then the actual throw is not reduced, the angle of the gear stick remains the same, it may look like a shorter throw but that is just becasuse the shaft is shorter therefore the gearknob will not seem as far forward or backwards as before it was chopped. Also if you simpy cut the shaft down you will need more effort to change gear because of the reduced leverage.
 
cov_racer said:
right the way i see it is that with a short shifter, the shaft beneath the pivot point is longer then there is more leverage therefore the gear will be selected soon with less movement of the gear stick above the pivot point correct?

if you simply chop the shaft down then the actual throw is not reduced, the angle of the gear stick remains the same, it may look like a shorter throw but that is just becasuse the shaft is shorter therefore the gearknob will not seem as far forward or backwards as before it was chopped. Also if you simpy cut the shaft down you will need more effort to change gear because of the reduced leverage.
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basically yes!
 
quickdraw said:
think more under the car mate.
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That's the key bit Dale, 'throw' is the distance the selector rod moves between gears, not the distance your hand moves.
 
Ive had mine sitting about for about 2 weeks now, is there any thing I need to get it sorted with? i.e bolts, nuts etc?? Didnt come with anything, just the shifter
 
You need a slightly thinner 60-70mm long bolt with a locking thread nut.

You will see when you get the old one off and compair. ;)
 
if you read the whole thread you'l see i posted a how to, on that bit ive put what bolt you'l need, in B&Q you get your own bolt
 
sorted cheers.. must have missed that..

I think my clutch is starting to slip, reckon I should sort this out before installing the shifter??
 
the shaft being shorter doesn't make the gear throw and shorter mate

also the link you supplied doesn't work
 
nevermind the link, its the first one that comes up for 'short shifter' on google.

Syms my friend i dont know how you can say that. Look at my diagram again...
 
Its called your eyes playing trick's on you mate, The throw is reduced in the car but under the car the angle and throw stay's the same, meaning the gear link's have to move JUST as much, meaning the throw isn't reduced at all.
 
Yeah but your hand does have to move less distance to get the same effect (i.e. putting it into a gear) Which I think is what Dale is getting at...?
 
Just because your hand moves less doesnt mean it shift's less, this is the point everyone is missing!
 
I can see what you're saying Dale i totally understand, just think the difference in shift from cutting the shaft is negligable, unless you really cut a lot off, whereas when the angular throw is altered it makes a much bigger difference.

Would you say you'd rather a shorter shifter, or a short shifter? or are you just playing the devil's advocate for the benefit of others
 
Oh my god i give up.

Right, the shaft is shorter meaning it "appears" the throw is shorted.

If you then go under the bonnet the link's and shaft move the EXACT same amount......try it for yourself lol!

This is the last time im posting lol, getting sick of repeating myself
 
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